Did The Rabbi From Nazareth Start Christianity?

Firstly,as Paqid Yirmeyahu Ben-David of the Netzarim (R'anana,Israel),points out:

The critical point, absolutely essential to understanding these things, is this: you must stop the confusing of two polar opposites as if they are one and the same person—or the same teaching. Otherwise, all contradictions are glossed over by deferring them to an impossible oxymoron of two mutually exclusive and self-contradicting, polar-opposite arch-enemies, assuming a non-existent transition and a co-exist of intractable self-contradictions in "Jesus." (This is what allows Christians to claim "Jewishness" of "Jesus" and still identify with Christianity because, no matter how contradictory that may be, they ignore all contradictions, claiming they're still following "Jesus.")

When a Christian or Jew speaks of the post-135 C.E. Christian figures and events, you must recognize that these can only be figures and events associated with the Roman-Hellenist idol Jesus—regardless if (s)he calls it by a Hebrew name. You can call an onion a rose, but an onion by any other name… No meaningful communication can occur until you insist on consistent definitions free of intrinsic contradictions that, otherwise, propagate through any discussion.

meaning: Yehoshua,Yeshua,etc does NOT equal Jesus,or the Yeshu spoken about the in the Talmud.

*by that time,any memory of "The real Rabbi From Nazareth" had long been lost to history.

 btw: the Netzarim were Jews,NOT christians. cf: Eusebius -be aware,though that the church(maybe deliberately!)mixed up the term "Nazarenes."

It is a common belief amongst Christians that "The Rabbi From  Nazareth" started Xty.
No surprise there since:

  • "Christianity is an assumed faith."
  • The Hellenist-Roman church,c. 135 C.E.-present,Hegesippus and other 'writers' fabricated that 'history.'
This is a common belief among Jews also(there are many reasons for this),but suffice to say that Jews assume all their information about Xty from Xtn sources and direct contacts.

Using that kind of  faulty logic ,ex falso quodlibet dictates that one might just as well say that the Pope started Judaism!Disgusting,yes,but "touché" as they say in French.

The Netzarim challenge:

DOCUMENT where Orthodox Jews,suddenly overnight,woke up as 'Hellenist-Roman Xtns?"

What did Ribi Yehoshua say that shows he was a Pharisee Rabbi and that he and his disciples only knew Torah ("Netzarim [-an offshoot of the P'rushim[Pharisees]]")Judaism?

Netzarim Hebrew Matitiyahu(hellenized to "Matthew.")5:17-20:

“I didn’t come to subtract from the Torah  or the Neviim, nor to add onto the Torah  did I come. Because, rather, I came to [bring about the] complete [i.e., non-selective] observance of them in truth.

Should the heavens and the land of Israel exchange places, still, not even one י or one  of the Oral Laws of the Torah  shall so much as exchange places; toward the time when it becomes that they are all being performed — i.e., non- selectively – in full.

For whoever deletes one [point of] the Oral law of these directives from Torah, or shall teach others such, [by those in] the Realm of the heavens he shall be called ‘deleted.’ And whoever ratifies and teaches them shall be called ‘ Ribi’ in the Realm of the heavens.

 For I tell you that unless your tzedaqah [”righteousness”] is over and above that of the [Hellenist-Roman Pseudo- Tzedoqim] Codifiers of halakhah, and of the [probably Herodian-Boethusian] Perushim sect of Judaism, no way will you enter into the Realm of the heavens.”

[cf. Devarim 13:2-6 for the reason. ]

ie: what was the penalty for saying, 'the Law is done away with" or ,declaring oneself 'the son of g-d?'

Then again:

NHM 10  -you have "The Rabbi From Natzrat(hellenized to : "Nazareth.") sending his Talmidim out and giving them "minui over Rukhot" or, "authority over unclean spirits."

(look up  chapter 10 in any 'Gospel of Matthew' from the Greek(not the same,as "The Netzarim Reconstruction of Hebrew Matitiyahu", btw.)

  • You can't give out 'authority' you don't already have,so we know from this and other verses that 'Ribi Yehoshua' was a P'rushi('Pharisee' from Greek: "Pharisaos")Ribi("Rabbi") who would have had his s'michah('ordination')from Gamaliel and that he sat on the Beit Din in the Beit HaMikdash HaSheni(hellenized to 'The Second Temple.").

  • He tells his disciples that he is called only to "The Lost Sheep of The House of Israel(the xlation should be "those led astray from....")" and to go only to them and not to "Samaria(Heb: 'Shomron")"...
  • what were they led astray from? -100%,non-selective Torah observance!
  • what were they led astray to: Hellenization -assimlation,linguistically and otherwise into Greco-Roman culture!

Even the late Rabbi Jacob Emden said that he believed that Ribi Yehoshua and his Talmidim were Torah-Observant Jews....right til the end!

This can also be shown from the writings of Eusebius,Josephus and others.

ie:In that the "Netzarim" survived until 333 C.E. when,sadly,they were completely and finally eradicated by Constantine -yet -Eusebius testifies that 'they only accepted the Tanakh and their own ["Netzarim"]Hebrew Matitiyahu(which all the early church fathers said they possessed!),rejected the heavily,Gentile redacted N.T.,considered Saul/Paul,an apostate from Torah and rejected his writings.

The Greek N.T. manuscripts have thousands of variations and can clearly be shown to be derived from 'Roman Syncretisms' and "corrupted stories' passed down by "Hellenized Jews."One must,then realize that the N.T. is a 'book' [back] editted over thousands of years!

In order to keep this article short,go here for details:



Who Was The Rabbi From Nazareth?

A lot of people wonder about this....but first of all,LOGIC dictates that we eliminate the ILLOGICAL.

In other words,let's get it straight as to who THE Rabbi From Nazareth was not:

  1. In Netzarim Hebrew Matitiyahu 5:17,18  Ribi Yehoshua(Aramaic: Yeshua) stated:"Don't think that I came to uproot the Torah,or the Neviim(Prophets),but rather I came to reconcile them with the Oral Law of emet." after which he stated: 'Should the Heavens and Ha Aretz exchange places,still.not even  one Yud,nor one Tittle of the Oral Law of Mosheh shall so much as exchange places;until it shall become that it is all being fully ratified and being performed non-selectively....".
  2. According to Devarim 13:2-6(hellenized to "Deuteronomy"),ANYONE who changes Hashem's commandments would be declared a False Prophet,the penalty for which was immediate stoning!
  3. THEREFORE,he couldn't have declared "the Law is done away with(that's not even in the NT!)" and neither could he have declared himself to be "the son of G-d(much less "Hashem",himself)",or allow anyone else to declare him as such -AND accept it!That would've been IDOLATRY!
  4. Ribi Yehoshua is also NOT the "Issa" of the Qu'ran who will come back to wipe out all nations in the name of Islam - but that is way beyond the scope of this article.
One important point to realize is that as stated by Paqid Yirmeyahu Ben-David Ha Tzaddik of The Netzarim in R'anana,Israel(the ONLY Netzarim group in the world accredited with the Orthodox beit Din in their area and the ONLY group that EXCLUSIVELY follows ORTHODOX JUDAISM and nothing else!):

The critical point, absolutely essential to understanding these things, is this: you must stop the confusing of two polar opposites as if they are one and the same person—or the same teaching. Otherwise, all contradictions are glossed over by deferring them to an impossible oxymoron of two mutually exclusive and self-contradicting, polar-opposite arch-enemies, assuming a non-existent transition and a co-exist of intractable self-contradictions in Jesus." (This is what allows Christians to claim "Jewishness" of "Jesus" and still identify with Christianity because, no matter how contradictory that may be, they ignore all contradictions, claiming they're still following "Jesus.").

To put it another way:

Ribi Yehoshua(Yeshua) DOES NOT = J-E-S-U-S!

As Paqid Yirmeyahu Ben-David also stated(historically verified)[paraphrased]:

"There is no historical connection between the post 135 C.E,4th century Hellenist-Roman  counterfeit man g-d image "Yeshu" created by the church and the real first century Rabbi From Natzrat(pop: "Nazareth" from the Greek) "Ribi Yehoshua(Aramaic: Yeshua)"."

It was also pointed out that all the references in the Talmud in regards to Rabbis polemically speaking out against "Yeshu" are in reference to the man g-d figure the church was portraying,NOT to the historical person,who had long been forgotten and whose 'accounts' had long been well corrupted via Roman Syncretisms and corrupted stories passed down by Hellenized Jews -in GREEK.

Since the 1st century events of BCE 007.05.29(his astronomically/computer calculated birthdate) up to his death at the hands of the Pseudo-Tzedokim and the Romans c. 30 CE,took place within the religious and cultural context of  Judaism,it is within that 'framework' that the events must be viewed!

ie:You can't look at The Russian Bolshevik Revolution of 1917 from the point of view of The French Revolution of 1789–1799 -in another language."Context is key",somebody once said.

That means: Torah,Tanakh,Orthodox and Pharisee/Netzarim Judaism and Hallachah -in Hebrew(and/or Aramaic,a closely related sister language),NOT Greek and its Hellenist -Roman pagan culture and perspective!

After having done that,it will be discovered that the Christian Church(aka: the Hellenist-Roman Church) changed the story to suit its own ends and many contradictions come to light.ie: Christianity and all of its doctrines,symbols,its 'messiah',etc did NOT come from Judaism.Upsurpation,stealing and twisting Judaism's Bible and Ribi Yehoshua's sayings,life highlights and character would be a valid charge,though.

In NHM chapter 1,Ribi Yehoshua's historical Yukhasin(genealogical) record is found (along with Ky-Lu 3:23,which scholars believe was all part of the same record,originally.),which despite claims to fakery,is accurate as well as being the ONLY surviving record from the House of David!

NHM 2:1 states: "When Yehoshua was born in Beit-Lekhem ,Yehudah,Israel in the days of melekh Herod the Great..."

Scholars agree that Herod The Great lived from around 73 BCE to c. 4 BCE.It is also known that according to astronomical,computer data and other information,Yehoshua was born 007.05.29 BCE.

Where did live and minister from?:

NHM 4:13: "Having left Natzrat(pop:Nazareth),having come,he dwelled in K'far Nakhum (pop: Capernaum)."

In reading NHM chapters 3-5 and following accounts it can be clearly seen from his discourses that he was a Jew and in chapter 8 when 'a Captain in the Roman Army' came to him for help because his servant was sick,he not only calls him "Adoni(My lord,or sir")",but pays him great honour and respect,thereby showing not only himself to be either a Jew,or Geir,but that Ribi Yehoshua ws obviously a Rabbi.

In NHM chapter10 he gives his Talmidim 'minui  over rukhot of tamei' and tells  to care for all kinds of diseases and sickesses.

In reading the account of his sending them forth to 'those led astray from The House of Israel(he told them he was only called thusly and that they weren't to go to "Shomron(Samaria)")',it is obvious that he was a Rabbi,because no one can delegate 'authority' they don't already have.He would have received his S'michah from Gamliel.

*compared to the standard Greek 'Gospel of Matthew' ,it is obvious he is sending his disciples out to call Jews back to '100% non-selective Torah observance' and to establish Batei-Dins and 'Synagogues(Batei-Knesset)" NOT Christianity and churches!Nor was he making 'christians".In fact,since Eusebius stated that 'Christianity started in 135 CE when the Romans DEPOSED the 15th Netzarim Jewish Paqid Yehudah HaTzaddik.....",in 29 CE,when the above events took place,nobody would have even heard of Xty!

In fact,one of the Netzarim challenges in the book "Who Are the Netzarim" is (paraphrased): "DOCUMENT where and when Orthodox Jews went to sleep one night and woke up as sun-g-d worshipping christians the next morning?"

The truth is: Christianity is an assumed faith,just like 'the theory of evolution.'It takes more faith to believe in Evolution,than it does to believe in Creation Science and,simarly,nobody questions the NT they're reading -and yet -there is NO manscript evidence preceding the 2nd century,but a lot of historical evidence by Eusebius,Josphephus,Jerome and others that help us to piece together a VERY DIFFERENT account than the "Ecclestiastical Spin" that the western world has bought for over 2,000 years!


The Real Davinci Code

Are you familiar with "The Davinci Code?"

 If not,then I'll give you a brief rundown:

Basically,the idea is that the Merovingian Bloodline are the descendants of J-e-s-u-s C-h-r-i-s-t and Mary Magdalene and the Roman Catholic Church is hiding the truth.

Well...it's even more twisted than that!

It's more like,the bad guys have broken into your house and you've hid your family in the Basement,so you draw their attention to somewhere else,ie: by priming the Hall Closet with a bunch of junk you know is going to fall and create a lot of noise,so as to divert their attention away from what you don;t want them to see!

This is what the Church has done....

What I'm about to divulge to you is information that:

  • The Roman Catholic Church,aka The Vatican,Papal Rome,etc doesn't want you to know.
  • Your Pastor,or Minister would just as soon you not question Christian history and the NT
  •  Your Rabbi definitely doesn't want you to know this...."it's not important"...ah,but it is,because the best way to deal with Christianity is to cut it off at the root,ie: prove its claims false.In order to do that,the facts must be known.
A hint: "Christianity is an assumed faith -by Christians,in particular and to make matters worse Jews assume all their information about it from either Christian sources,or direct contact with Christian 'missionaries.'

Here's the secret they don't want you to know:
  1. The REAL "Rabbi from Nazareth" was a P'rushi('Pharisee') 'Ribi" named "Yehoshua",or "Yeshua" in Aramaic....There is no historical correlation/connection between this Orthodox Jewish Rabbi and the post 135 C.E.,4th century Hellenist/Roman counterfeit man-g_d image "Yeshu" set up by the Roman Church.
  2. The earliest extant Church historian, Eusebius (260-340 CE), recorded in his Ecclesiastical History (EH II.xxiii.4) that the "charge" over the original Jewish followers of Ribi Yәhoshua had been given over to his brother, the first Nәtzarim Paqid, Ya·aqov "ha-Tzadiq" Ben-David (Hellenized to "James the Just"). 
  1. The earliest extant Church historian, Eusebius also documented that the Nәtzarim excised Saul, thereafter referred to exclusively as Paul, judging him an apostate (EH III.xxvii.4; see also NT corroboration in Ma·avar 15.41 with note 15.41.0 of Appendix V in Atonement In the Biblical 'New Covenant' (ABNC). 
  2. The earliest extant Church historian, Eusebius further documented (EH IV.vi.3-4) that, in 135 CE, the Roman gentiles displaced the Nәtzarim by their expulsion ("ethnic cleansing") from Yәrushalayim of every Jew… which included the 15th Nәtzarim Paqid (EH IV.v.1-4) whom the Romans displaced with the first gentile "bishop," Marcus (EH V.xii.1) — the birth of the gentile Roman Church in 135 CE!!! 
  3. The earliest extant Church historian, Eusebius further documented (EH III.xxvii.4-6) that the original Nәtzarim accepted only the Jewish Tana"kh as Bible and only The Netzarim ("their own") Hebrew Matityahu (NHM) as an authentic account of the life and teachings of Ribi Yәhoshua, never accepting the the 2nd-4th century, heavily gentile-redacted (Greek), NT. 
  4. Oxford historian James Parkes documented (The Conflict of the Church and the Synagogue) how the central misojudaic (Judaic-hating) displacement theology of the original (post-135 C.E.) Church drove the Hellenist Roman Christians to ally with the Hellenist Roman Empire in persecuting the original Nәtzarim ("Nazarenes"). The original Church insisted that the Nәtzarim were "superseded" (displaced) by the Church and, because they defied the Church's rejection ("supercession") of Torah, the Nәtzarim had become enemies of the Church and, therefore, servants of Satan – who should no longer exist. This cooperation between the earliest Christian Church, who were Hellenist Romans, and the Hellenist Roman Empire in the persecution of the Nәtzarim Jews continued until Constantine eradicated the last remnant of the Nәtzarim in 333 CE. Parkes further demonstrated that 4th-century gentile Hellenist – misojudaic – Christianity was the polar antithesis of Judaic Ribi Yәhoshua of Nazareth and his original Judaic Nәtzarim disciples.
Now before you get over the shock of all the above,I have to give you another shock,because I left one important point out.

In 34 C.E,the Hellenist Jews,who would eventually come to be know as "Evionim" in Hebrew,"Ebionaoi" in Greek,and Ebionites in English,fled to Pella  after the stoning of the apostate Greek speaking Jew,Stephanos("Stephen").This is about the same time,the apostate Greek speaking Jew,Saul of Tarsus,later known as Paul,turns up!

(Forget the flowery stories about him and Paul you've read in the book of Acts.The NT is heavily redacted and doctored by 'loyal' 'translators' in order to sell the church's 'program' and anti-Jewish version of history!)

How can you prove this -without having access to the historical documents mentioned above?

  1.  Go to http://www.netzarim.co.il -all the historically verified information is already there.
  2.  Start reading the Tanakh (esp. the Torah),in Hebrew,NOT English.There is reason for this!
  3. Get underneath the Greek and refer to the Hebrew and Aramaic used in the 1st century
  4. Reconstruct 1st century Judaism and use Torah,Tanakh,Hebrew,Aramaic and Logic to recover the real history of events.
If you'll just stop assuming everything and start doing some critical analysis,you'll discover that none of Christianity's doctrine even come from the NT and in fact,the "NT" doesn't agree with the  "OT."

Take out your Christian Bible and read Matthew 5:17,18 -EVERY word,then think about it.Then read Devarim/Deuteronomy 13:2-6....6:4 "The Shema."


Daniel's 4th Beast and the 10 Horns

One of the things I've been having to do the last year,is totally relearn bible prophecy[and just about thing else for that matter!],because of all the faulty Xtn interpretations(some pretty wild ones at that) I had learnt over the years because of a wrong non-Judaic perspective....

[In fact,I heard that the Jesuits wrote all the 'future prophetic interpretations' to counteract the Protestant Movement's success against Papal Rome and their pointing the finger at the Pope as The Anti-C-h-r-i-s-t...and that's all I'd better say about that on this blog.]

...One being,יְחֶזְקֵאל‎‎ 38,39 ,meaning that the words  'רֹאשׁ','מֶשֶׁךְ' and 'תֻבָל' - do NOT mean,etymologically: Moscow,Russia,and Tubolsk,etc.as one popular,biblically-illiterate weekly Tv Evangelist likes to say(for the record:I don't watch ,or listen to any Xtn programs any more).ie:Russia and its Muslim satellite nations being the bad boy of this popular,erroneous interpretation.A recent  פָּרָשָׁה  on the Netzarim website dealt with this.

In fact,I found one Jewish Orthodox site,where they detail how they did a search to find that it appears that the land of Magog is actually an area overlapping Iran,Pakistan,Afghanistan and part of India, NOT Russia.

(this is the English xlation of the  עִבְרִית article.The website is in עִבְרִית. )

Another site detailed the fact that יְחֶזְקֵאל knew exactly what nations he was referring to,because the list is in  בְּרֵאשִׁית 10

This week I have been studying NHM 24 and although I read the notes the first time I got NHM,I must've missed this ,because after reading NHM 24 and its  notes again,I realized that the 10(and 11th)horns are not some fanciful future prophetic interpretation,but happened immediately post-135 C.E and is the fulfillment of (Daniel)דָּנִיֵּאל 7:25,particularly,in the person of Narcissus,and eventually Constantine.I can also see now how thanks to heavily redacted NT versions,the message really got perverted!

Most Bible prophecy buffs agree on the 4 beasts of   דָּנִיֵּאל  2  and 7,but do not go not as far as the last church I was in[The Seventh Day Adventist Church] (who still don't go as far as the נְצָרִים did and do!),which is probably why these days the Protestant and Orthodox churches are falling for Papal Rome's charms and their 'come home to Mother" message,as well as erroneously mistaking 'the 10 horns' as 10 Roman nations(after the breakup of the Roman Empire) and 3 were defeated(because of Arianism-shows the church didn't tolerate any dissent!)EU,10 Worldwide Trading Divisions,ad nauseam....I would guess you've probably heard 'em all.


Interestingly,this reminds me of how The Seventh Day Adventist Church(who love bible prophecy,especially דָּנִיֵּאל),referred to Daniel's 4th Beast" by the fact that Pagan-Rome gave birth to Papal Rome and refer to them as 'The Beast Power" and "Daniel's Little Horn(if I recall rightly they were referring to Constantine and the succession of Popes here ie:  'Usurpation' et al.},"and while it is wonderful that they go further than others do,in adding another piece of the prophetic jigsaw puzzle and calling it "The Anti-C-h-r-i-s-t System" ,because everything it teaches goes against scripture,and calling the Pope-"The Anti-C-h-r-i-s-t",being on the inside of Xty,they didn't and don't realize, as the  נְצָרִים did and do ,that actually the term should be more like 'The Anti-Messiah Power",because it's all Xty,and its set up "messianic man g_d image figure" and  is a usurpation,perversion and corruption of נְצָרִים יהדות and and  "רבי יהושע" and teaches the opposite of  יהודות   .

 They also,contrary to popular interpretations, ie:" all the world will be  chipped,''"the UPC Bar Code,"etc, refer to '666' being the number of "The Pope ",and in a way,they were on the right track,just didn't think it through enough ,maybe,to realize that as you pointed out on the website,it refers to an idolatrous sun g-d worship system which would take over -the product of an egg laying Dragon.

At least now,I don't have to worry about being 'left behind'!

Now to NHM 25....


Christianity Is An Assumed Faith

Christianity is an assumed faith!This article is written with Christians in mind,so if you are  Jewish,you can pretty much disregard what I wrote below.Just be aware that all information that Jews have about Christianity comes from Christian sources,which is just 'assumed' to be correct -it isn't!

Hard to believe?

Examine the evidence.

The first point below is assumed by Christians AND Jews that:

  • Christianity was founded in the 1st century CE by J-e-s-u-s C-h-r-i-s-t. -it wasn't.
  • Christians assume that the Greek manuscripts all agree and there are only minor errors. -not true.
  • Christians assume that the NT agrees with the OT.-not true.
 *Jews don't refer to their Bible as  the "OT(a "Displacement Theology"term-invented by Marcion.)",they call it,the Tana''ch.
    Firstly, there is no historical connection between the post 135 C.E, 4th century Hellenist/Roman counterfeit man g_d image J-e-s-u-s and the 1st century P'rushi(Pharisee) pro Torah rabbi 'Ribi' Yehoshua(Aramaic: Yeshua).

    Secondly,Eusebius,the earliest extant church historian,wrote that Christianity began in 135 C.E,not before.

    Thirdly,since the earliest Greek NT mss(manuscript) is dated 200-299 C.E.,then the obvious answer is(since ONLY Judaism existed in the 1st century)that the NT manuscripts came from "Roman Syncretisms" and/or 'corrupted stories passed down by Hellenized Jews."

    There are several  ways one can prove this.....

    One being that Religious Jews and Hellenized Jews speaking of deity were not speaking the same words.The former's words came straight from Sinai,the latter's words straight from Greek mythology and the pagan temples.The other way is by comparing the Hebrew/Aramaic and Greek terms for the  same things.They don't mean the same!What's more,a search of Torah and Tanakh -in Hebrew,shows the above and in addition also exposes the false doctrines in the NT.

    Fourthly,Eusebius testified of the original Netzarim that:

    • they lived in the Jewish quarter alongside the Pharisees(the ancestors of the today's Orthodox Jews),amicably and Jews were forbidden according to Hallachah to have contact with non-Jews.
    • They only accepted the Tanakh,their own Hebrew Matitiyahu,rejected the heavily redacted Greek NT,considered Saul(Paul)an apostate and rejected his writings.
    • In 333,Constantine finally succeeded in completely eradicating them for refusing to compromize Torah,go to church on Sun-g-d-day("Constantine instituted rest on the venerable day of the sun("dies solis invicita")in 313 C.E. and anybody caught "judaizing" was punished.) and eat Pork on the way out.
      The Conflict of the Church and the Synagogue (chapters 1-5) by James Parkes(the late Oxford Historian).

      This excellent book is out of print,but may be found used somewhere online(I found a copy on Ebay),or in a bookstore somewhere.

      Take a typical Christian statement:

      "J-e-s-u-s died for our sins"

      1. Original Sin -There is no doctrine of Original Sin in Judaism.Kippur(Atonement) is already in Torah,so if you sin,you make Teshuvah(return,repent)and do better.The Doctrine of Orginal Sin comes from the Roman Church and was developed by Athanasius.
      2. Vicarious Atonment - 4th century Roman Church(look it up.I did) -again,atonement is already in Torah and earch man is responsible for his own sins.
      3. Savior -This goes against the Torah requirements for Mashiakh,namely he must keep Torah(or be disqualified according to Devarim 13:1-6).Mashiakh must also be a man and agent of Hashem,not some "man-g_d",or "demi-g-d."
      Other phrases like:

      "Man couldn't keep G-d's commandments,so G_d had to send His son",etc....is completely against Torah and Tanakh,and betrays its Hellenist/Roman pagan origin.Besides,look at the results of preaching this nonsense.You have people who claim to be Christians,living any old how expecting they're going to be in Heaven.

      "The Law is done away with" is not even in the NT(I'm not validating it,merely making a point.),but comes from Constantine/Papal Rome and fits perfectly with The Vatican's agenda,then and now towards the Jews.

      On another note:

      During WW2,"The Vatican Underground" as it was called,helped many Nazis escape to South America,Mexico and other places.The Vatican,according to one writer,also saved some Jews,so that in the event the Nazis lost,the Vatican could claim,they did what they could to save some Jews,and yet -they/the Jesuits were behind WW2(and all others!)anyway.

      btw: the word "law" is an accurate translation of the Greek word  νόμος ("nomos"),if you're referring to "the unalterable Athenian law" but it is NOT an accurate translation of the Hebrew word תורה ("Torah"),which should be either "Instruction",or "teaching."


        Jewish Tradition vs Christian Tradition

        When I say that word,I can hear Tevye from "Fiddler On The Roof" singing and shouting the word TRADITION,because everything was changing,ie: his daughter Tzeitel didn't want to marry Lazer Wolf the Butcher(really....can you blame her?She was only 20 and he was 75!!!),she wanted to marry Motel the tailor,her childhood sweetheart,but that wasn't how things were done,because marriages were supposed to be 'arranged" ,usually by the village matchmaker,the old Yenta- for a fee,of course!

        Anyway,there are good traditions and there are bad traditions.

        This is about a bad one.

        Just like Christianity is an assumed faith,Judaism has assumed some 'historical' and 'linguistic' traditions that are just plain not true,yet when one tries to point out the unadulterated facts(see below),there are Jews who willfully refuse to acknowledge these facts -all in the name of protecting Judaism from Christianty....by holding onto falsehoods?

        Are the Rabbis of Judaism today's "false Shepherds" spoken of by Yehezchel the Navi(prophet)(hellenized to "Ezekiel")?

        I think so!

        btw: all Jewish information(yes,including that on the Encyclopedia Judaica website) about Christianity comes from either Christian sources and/or contact with Christian missionaries(btw: "messianic" Jews are also Christians!)which is ALL assumed(to be true) and therefore invalid.

        In "Who Are The Netzarim " by Paqid Yirmeyahu Ben-David a few  of the "Netzarim Challenges" are:

        "Document,where these religious and Torah-observant Jews in the pre-135 CE Jewish community-as Dead Sea Scroll 4Q MMT describes the 1st century Jewish community-suddenly,and with no transition,or record of the event,abandoned their beit k'nesset and Torah teachings?"

        "Document where and when such strict Torâh-observant religious Jews turned 180° against their native religion overnight, with no record of any transition at all, to follow Hellenist Roman paganism? This requires a magical "Poof!" to explain – one night they all went to bed as Torâh-observant Jews and, "Poof!" they awoke the next morning as a gentile, pagan, misojudaic Church completely dependent upon Displacement Theology! "
        Here are the facts:

        "Jewish Tradition" has confused many Jews,namely in the following areas:

        1. נְצָרִים (Netzarim [Jews])נזיר(Nazir-Nazerite Vow) and נָצְרִים (Notzrim,Natzrim-Christians)come from 3 completely different roots,yet many blur 2 of them and some even all three,and worse,refuse to accept correction!Many are ignorant of the historical facts.ie: one church official stating "the Nazarenes" were keeping some of the church's 'beliefs"(while keeping some of their Jewish beliefs) is obviously NOT the נְצָרִים since Eusebius documented that they were eradicated by 333 CE for refusing to compromise Torah.Sounds like a twist on the early church's belief of "everybody's a heretic-except them",only in this case from a Jewish point of view: 'they're all Xtns!"
        The historical and linguistic facts disagree with Jewish Tradition.

        3)Another common misconception is that Xty started in ie: 20 CE by "J-e-s-u-s" and that believing in ANY 1st century messiah is XTY!

        Even the Talmud disagrees with that erroneous statement!

        4)J-e-s-u-s.... and רבי יהושע(Ribi[ONLY P'rushi/Pharisee Rabbis held that title!]Yehoshua) are the same person.

        Logically,not possible,since the two were/are vastly different in character.The first was an invention of the Hellenist/Roman post 135 C.E. church and is supposed to have 'done away with the law(that doctrine is not even in the heavily redacted NT-quite the opposite,in fact)" and the second,a 1st century Pro-Torah Pharisee rabbi(a man,no less) named "Yehoshua."

        Details here: http://www.netzarim.co.il

        From Christianity To Netzarim Judaism

        I was born in Maidstone,Kent,England in 1958 and experienced religion at an early age attending The Church of England,saying "The L_rd's Prayer" and singing Hymns at Primary School.

        I started taking French in school at age 7.This would turn to be significant later on.

        When I look back on it all now,I realize that like Avraham in Ur of the Chaldees,amongst all those idols,the one true Hashem(Devarim 4:6),the Perfect Singularity/Creator was calling out to him and He was also calling out to me and awakening in me a desire to know more of Him and leave the idols behind.Little,then did I realize what those idols were and are and even now,I'm only just beginning to thanks to Hebrew,Torah and the Netzarim!

        In April of 1966,my family emigrated to Canada,eventually 2 years later settling in Peterborough,Ontario,where I grew up and where I continued my spiritual search,mostly via ocassional and seasonal Church attendance.

        In Canada,in some areas our two official languages are spoken side by side.This was another positive influence for later on.Plus,TV and Radio have both present.

        One thing I wondered about was the fact that I had some fellow Jewish students at Elementary school and when we had religious studies,they were always exempt.This made me curious.I asked one of them about it and he explained that they weren't teaching the Tanakh the same way he was taught!They were twisting it,he told me. I took note of that,but having a zeal,but no knowledge,didn't quite know what to think,so I shelved it!

        One thing that happened during high school was in taking French my teacher instilled in me a gift for languages(Iwanted to drop it,but she begged me not to,telling me that "You know you like languages and have a gift for them") which would come in handy later on.I would develop an ear and a knack for picking up languages years later.

        In the Spring of 1978,I returned to England to live,getting involved in various Pentecostal groups,eventually,after it all made sense,finally giving up my life and becoming "born again."

        In the fall of 1981,back in Canada,I made a vow that I would never be a victim of somebody's Bible translations,because I would study the original languages for myself.

        After seeing an ad in a Toronto newspaper,where I was living at the time,I took a course in modern Hebrew,visited a "Messianic" Jewish Assembly,a Conservative Synagogue and talked to the many Jews I would encounter around the city.I bought a Hebrew Bible and I even read part of the Talmud once.I also bought myself some cassettes and began teaching myself modern Greek.There were questions I had to have answers to and I knew I was not going to find them in any translation.

        I was becoming aware of a number of conflicts,but couldn't sort them out at that time,not having the information I needed.For example,I observed that "Messianic" Judaism,as refreshing as it was,compared to the churches,was just a Christianity with Jewish clothing!

        I realized that to understand the true 1st century message,the events and names must be restored to their first century linguistic,cultural and religious context.

        In translating any language,it is said that at one end of the scale you have "literal translation(word for word)",at the other end is "figurative(loose translation)" and then there's the middle.The hard part is getting the thought form across.Often what happens in going from one lanaguage to another, only the words get translated and even then,they get twisted!I was becoming increasingly aware that Ribi Yehoshua's(Aramaic "Yeshua" NOT the post 135 C.E. 4th century Hellenist/Roman counterfeit man g_d image "J-e-s-u-s" invented by the Roman church!) original message had been changed and twisted thanks to the Greek.

        I remember watching a cartoon about Channukah once,where the candles were lit with Hebrew letters,but when the letters were changed to Greek,the lights went out,until the Greek letters were replaced with Hebrew ones again.This of course,was the Macabee story,but even so,it's common knowledge that Ribi Yehoshua and his Talmidim spoke Western Aramaic,NOT Greek.For Jews,their language whether Hebrew,Aramaic,Ladino,Yiddish,etc has preserved their identity and kept them together,but that's another story indeed!

        I began attending a Greek Evangelical church and looking into the Greek,as well as keeping my interest in Biblical Hebrew.I became aware though that despite the fact that Greek is more precise than English,it was not the language,or culture that the events of Ribi Yehoshua's day were conducted in.

        One conflict I had was:

        Why do Jews(and Seventh Day Adventists)worship on Shabbat("The Bible Sabbath"),but others on Sun-g_d-Day.People would tell me: "It doesn't matter...""The Torah is done away with..." I wondered:How can Hashem's law be changed....How did it get changed and how did this doctrine come about and if not from scripture where from?

        The answer I found out years later: "All roads lead to (Papal)Rome."Also,Constantine and the Popes.

        Many years later,I found out that Ribi Yehoshua and his Talmidim all kept Shabbat and their days were as Hashem had commanded: "...Sunset to Sunset..."...but man,namely Constantine and the Papal powers had changed Hashem's laws,namely Shabbat to Sun-g_d-day and Pope Gregory instituted the Julian Calendar,using the Babylonian/Roman reckoning of time with days beginning at midnight,again perverting Hashem's commands(Daniel 7:25).

        I spent 15 years with The Seventh Day Adventist Church;5 years watching and 10 years in it and comparing scripture with scripture,but discovered that while they had the truth of the Sabbath and the "the law",they didn't know the difference between a "righteous" person and a "sinner("we're all sinners....")" and they held to "Replacement Theology("the church has replaced Israel as the people of Hashem.")

        I now realize looking back that the Ruach HaQodesh was witnessing to my heart that these were a few of the many false doctrines.I also discovered that all the symbols in Christianity came from Papal Rome and theirs from Pagan sources.Afterall,it is said that the seat of the Babylonian religion was moved to Rome in 376 C.E.

        I also became increasingly aware that most Christians are just blindly following whatever doctrines their church believes,keeping their roster of "scriptural proofs" yet never opening their bibles to check anything out.And they say "Hashem has blinded the Jews!?" They need to look in their own mirror!

        All the churches come from their mother(Papal Rome) and the so-called Protestant Reformation wasn't much of a reformation at all,because despite the fact that their motto was 'Sola Scritura(Scripture Only)",they never made a clean break from the Roman church and none of their doctrines were/are from scripture.Prostestantism is just watered down Roman-Catholicism,as I see it now.

        I knew I had to come out of all the churches and got loosely involved with the "Hebrew Roots Movement" which is made up of people searching out their Hebrew roots and are all in various stages of coming out of the churches.As they see the Bible truths via the Hebrew and Aramaic,the Greco/Roman Mindset starts to crack and fall away!Unfortunately,the other side of the coin,the Messianic Movement is still basically Christianity(they won't admit that,of course).I realized I had to avoid picking up any more unbiblical junk!

        I realized,again,that if I wanted to know the truth,I had to start from Torah and put all 1st century events back in their Orthodox Jewish and Aramaic/Hebraic context.When I did,all the false idolatrous teachings I'd learned were quickly shown as false in the light of the Torah.

        Then in late 2009,via a websearch for "Who are the Netzarim?" I came across 'www.Netzarim.co.il" and the final piece of the Jigsaw Puzzle appeared.

        It explained what I had kind of known all along,that I had been the victim of 2000 years of Eclessiastical lies and Greek polution of the first century Rabbi's pro-Torah,Jewish message.

        In studying: "Who Are The Netzarim?" "Atonement In The Biblical New Convenant and "The Netzarim Reconstruction Of Hebrew Matitiyahu" ,I can see clearly how Ribi Yehoshua's message got perverted by Daniel's fourth Beast (Daniel 2),the egg laying Dragon of Pagan,then Papal Rome.

        Details here: http://www.netzarim.co.il